Bestselling author Sunniva Holt is a property investor who began investing at age 19. By the time she was in her early 30’s, she built a multimillion-dollar property portfolio. What’s also interesting is Sunniva’s atypical upbringing. She explains the way she was raised made her fight for her freedom, and so she fought to go to high school. You see, Sunniva and her nine siblings were raised in a strict religious cult and lived in an isolated area of New Zealand. Sunniva talks about what life was like back then, and also talks about an event when she was 19–she was drugged and raped in her own home. But, even after that horrible experience, she learned we all have the ability to turn pain into power–it’s just how we choose to look at it. She also in this interview offers several tips from her latest book, Life on Your Terms: 7 Steps to Creating the Life you Always Wanted. Today, Sunniva is a transformational and wealth alignment coach, a speaker, and describes herself as driven to help others trying to get more out of life.
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Kathy: 00:00 Before we begin this episode, I want to let you know that it includes the topic of rape,
Sunniva: 00:07 that there was hate towards homosexuality and there was all this underlying racism and of course like all this hate to anybody that didn’t fit in with the system, any other religion was going to hell. Any secular people are going to hell so pretty much if you didn’t agree with their beliefs or live by their beliefs, then your a bad person, and to me I was like, how? How does that fit in with this whole idea that God is loving God? It didn’t Gel at all. It didn’t make sense to me.
Kathy: 00:44 Hello and welcome to The Inspire Cafe podcast where we bring you conversations and inspirational stories of people overcoming adversity and then how they came out of it transformed with a positive outlook or outcome. People are incredibly resilient and we need to hear more of their stories. This is Kathy De La Torre.
Kathy: 01:08 Hello and welcome to The Inspire Cafe podcast. Today’s guest is a bestselling author, Sunniva Holt, a property investor who began investing at the age of 19. By the time she was in her early 30’s, she built a multimillion dollar property portfolio. What’s also interesting is Sunniva has an atypical upbringing. She explains the way she was raised, made her fight for her freedom, and so she fought to go to high school. You see, Sunniva and her nine siblings were raised in a strict religious cult and lived in an isolated area of New Zealand. She talks about what life was like back then and now also about an event when she was 19.
Kathy: 01:47 She also offers several tips from her latest book Life on Your Terms, Seven Steps to Creating the Life you Always Wanted. Before we get to the interview, you should know that we’ll have links to Sunniva’s books and ways to connect with her on The Inspire Cafe.com and also a transcript of this interview, and if you’d like to see a list of resources mentioned in previous episodes, go to our Tesources and Motivational Tools pages on our site. Finally, if you’d like what you hear, please subscribe, rate, and review. We really appreciate the support. Okay. Let’s get back to Sunniva story…..
Kathy: 02:29 Sunniva, you are a transformation and wealth alignment coach, a speaker, self made multimillionaire, author of two best selling books, The Hustle Life, Seven Ways toRraise Your Results, and your most recent book that just came out Life on Your Terms, Seven Steps to Creating the Life you Always Wanted. First of all, congratulations on the success of your books. I understand that Life on Your Terms that just came out is already an Amazon best seller. Is that right?
Sunniva: 02:59 It is, yes. Pretty exciting.
Kathy: 03:02 That is exciting. So can you share with us what inspired you to, first of all, write, your latest book, Life on Your Terms?
Sunniva: 03:11 Uh, it’s something that’s been in the works for awhile. Actually. I run a cool life on your terms as well and it’s something I’m super passionate about. I believe everybody deserves to have a life on their own terms and that looks different for every single person and no one deserves that, but absolutely can habit that anybody has the resources and the support and everything that they need to create that for themselves.
Kathy: 03:41 To create that for themselves…. And there were so many good tips on it and we’re going to talk about that in a little bit, but if it’s okay, I’d like to go back to the beginning. From everything I’ve read or listened to you so far, you’ve had an unconventional upbringing. Can you share what life was like growing up for you?
Sunniva: 04:01 Yeah. Um, so I grew up in a really big family. I grew up as one of 10 children and my family lived in the middle of pretty New Zealand is quite different I guess to the U.S., but um, we lived in a super remote area of New Zealand’s and it was about a three hour drive from any town or city at some point during my early childhood. My parents got really involved in some hardcore religious fundamentalist religion and then a into a cult for a, for a period of time. And so this definitely mean a lot of restriction. We were raised in a very strict religious schooling. Um, my parents had a lot of distrust for the outside world, for the secular world, I guess they called it for, you know, for the government. And the school system and the medical system and the police.
Sunniva: 05:07 Yeah, all of that. So it was, yeah, I guess it was different to most people, but of course it’s the only thing that I knew growing up. So I guess it was kind of just normal. But there was a part of me that also knew it wasn’t right so it didn’t feel good and I was also very, very, um, independent and had somewhat a rebellious spirit, which I still do. And I just wanted to get out of there as soon as I could. So I harass my parents for a really long time to let me go to school, which was a really big deal to them because they didn’t believe in traditional schooling. And I harass them as, you know, continue to harass them until they gave in. And at some point they did and they, well, okay, you can go but you have to pay for it yourself. And that meant thousands of dollars because I would have to board and at 15 somehow I managed to just work my butt off and come up with the money and went to school. And never went back and that was, that was it for me.
Kathy: 06:17 I’m curious, do they not have a public school available to you or were you so remote that you had when you were forced to attend a school where you had to board?
Sunniva: 06:27 Yeah, that’s right. It was literally no school for hours from where we lived were really far away.
Kathy: 06:34 Well, yeah, that’s unlike yet. I’m curious, how do you rank as far as age in your family and of your siblings? Are you the oldest or middle kid?
Sunniva: 06:44 I am the second oldest.
Kathy: 06:47 Second oldest. Wow. out of 10 kids. So you talked a lot about restrictions and your parents didn’t want you kids to go to regular school. And so you were homeschooled. You mentioned something that they didn’t approve of some of the curricula at the public schools. Can you talk a little about like what did they not approve of?
Sunniva: 07:12 Yeah, good question. I know the one thing that didn’t agree with their religion with science and so a lot of the stuff that they’re teaching science wasn’t something that they believed in. So things like evolution or um, you know, they taught things like that. The earth was only 2000 years old and most of the history and stuff that was taught was a lie that a lot of stuff that was taught in school was a lie and show was quite a few other things. I, to be honest, I don’t really remember. It’s just really interesting for me now because often come on and I’ll be like, oh, I didn’t know that that was a thing like or um, you know, I was taught to believe completely differently or that wasn’t true or you know, all these kinds of things. So it still surprises me that the still occasional little things that might come up.
Kathy: 08:12 That’s interesting that you’re still discovering things that you learned that maybe weren’t totally true. And then it sounded like there was a lot of isolation. You not, you were physically isolated, but were you able to have any friends or you have kids over or anything like that?
Sunniva: 08:28 The only friends who were allowed to have where other families from the same religion. So, uh, they all tended to have massive families as well because that was part of it, you know, they, it was the teaching that you’re supposed to go ahead and breed as much as possible to spread the word of God. And yeah, I wasn’t, I wasn’t really allowed to have friends outside of that. I, uh, there was even a time where I went to a religious camp that was actually part of this cult and I met a girl that when we got on really, really well and we just had the most beautiful time together at this camp. But her mother didn’t approve of this friendship for whatever reason. I’m not sure why that was, but maybe they just didn’t want anyone getting close. I think that was some weird kind of corruption for them. And so when I got home and I wanted to know we wanted to talk to each other or just be pen pals because that’s like back then, that was like how we communicated with each other. Back in the old days and were when my mother got a phone call from her mother saying that we’re not allowed to communicate with each other and I was cut off.
Kathy: 09:44 Oh, that’s so sad. I remember reading another heartbreaking note that you or, your parents destroyed your family’s record collection of music.
Sunniva: 10:00 Yes, they did. They another thing that was taboo as music. The only things that were really allowed to listen to hymns. And even lot of Christian music was off the plate because it had a drum beat, which uh, they, they called the beat of Satan, I believe.
Kathy: 10:23 Oh boy. Well, you talk a lot about that there was a lot of induced feelings of shame and making you kids feel feeling guilty about something and talking about your sister who shaved her legs and that was taboo or wrong. And how boys and girls were treated differently. You said that you’re the second oldest kid in your family. How did you come to realize that something didn’t feel right to you or, or something wasn’t right?
Sunniva: 10:50 It was an inherent knowing you just know that it’s, it’s wrong, you know, like it just doesn’t gel and you try so hard to fit in and you want to, you know, of course you want to please your parents and not go to hell and be a good girl and all that kind of thing. But then like the such a strong part of you that’s screaming like this is not okay, this is not. This does not feel right for me. I’m a big thing about it was that they preached that God is love and that’s such a big thing in religion, but they, they also preach so much hate towards people that there was hate towards homosexuality and there was all this underlying racism and of course all this hate to anybody that didn’t fit in with the system. Any other religion was going to hell. Any secular people are going to hell. So it’s pretty much if you didn’t agree with their beliefs or a live by their beliefs, then you’re a bad person. And to me I was like, how? How does that fit in with this whole idea that God is this loving God? It didn’t gel at all, didn’t make sense to me.
Kathy: 12:01 It didn’t gel. And I’m curious. So you left when you were 15 or 16? I think it was. Did any of your siblings follow you or try to follow you and leave home and go to school?
Sunniva: 12:14 Pretty much. I’m the only one that’s gone to school until the, the youngest ones because my father, so, so the religion or the, the cult actually dispersed at some point, I believe the guys that she in jail now, but my father was killed in an accident about five years ago and from that point soon often my mom actually moved out to one of the, the local cities and um, and the last year or two actually my two youngest siblings and started going to school.
Kathy: 12:48 Oh Wow. It must be interesting now that they’re older to see the perspective of not being in that environment anymore.
Sunniva: 12:57 Yeah, absolutely.
Kathy: 12:59 You mentioned that your ability to work and save up your own money, reach your goal by paying your own way to go to school was a pivotal moment in your life and it sounds like, I don’t know, but maybe it started. That was a door opener for you. Can you talk a little bit about that?
Sunniva: 13:19 Yeah, absolutely. I’m really grateful for my upbringing. I’m so grateful that I went through what I did and that, that my life wasn’t always easy because it drove me so much and I have so much more than motivation for everything else in my life and I really credit those circumstances for helping me create what I have and believing that anything is possible. You know, so that first, that first time of paying for myself to go through school and proving to myself that you know, that I could come up with the money and that I could go out on my own. And then I went on from that and traveled. I lived in Canada and traveled around Canada on my own when I was only 17 and then came back to New Zealand and I got into the property market at the age of 19 and just did all these things that people told me couldn’t be done and I love that. I love like the, you know, that nothing’s impossible. That’s what, uh, that’s what I really believe is that you can achieve anything if you’re super committed, if you have the conviction and if you’re willing to take massive action on and also make sacrifices.
Kathy: 14:36 And make sacrifices. Yes. Something’s got to change if you want to have a change in your life.
Sunniva: 14:36 One hundred percent.
Kathy: 14:48 Makes a lot of sense. You also referenced a traumatic experience when you were 19. Can you briefly share what happened to you at that time?
Sunniva: 15:00 Yeah, I was um, I was at a doing a journalism diploma and this was when I came back from traveling overseas. and this was a period of time where I’d like started drinking. Not a lot, like, it wasn’t over a huge patio, but I had started, you know, socializing and having house parties. And I had a house party at this one point of time with people that I knew and then a couple of their friends or flatmates and it was a very, very cloudy experience for me because I believe like looking back now, I realized that I had something in my drink, um, and I had passed out and I guess that everybody had left the house and then someone had come back and when I was asleep or passed out on my bed and I came to this really, really groggy state to find this men, uh, on top of me.
Sunniva: 16:04 And I’ve, at the time it was a very difficult situation. I really didn’t know what to do or how to respond. Um, I didn’t want to use the word rape because it felt very intense. And I also like so many women that have been through this. Um, I blamed myself as I shouldn’t have been drinking, you know, like all these things. Um, I just made it my fault. And the other thing was, is like I knew that going into the police wouldn’t achieve anything. It just can make everything, you know, you have to relive the experience and you’d go through all this, like so much more trauma and if you took it to court, the likelihood of them getting any kind of maintenance would be. It’s very minimal and you get dragged through, right? Like, you’re, I get crucified a lot of the time. I’ve seen it so many times with women who’ve been through this through this end, so I just didn’t do anything about it.
Sunniva: 17:09 And of course it caused a lot of trauma, emotional trauma for me. Um, I didn’t tell anybody actually until about two and a half years ago, told nobody. Oh really? Yeah, that’s right. I just suppressed it for a really long time and it was two and a half years ago. I was doing some personal development work and stuff. It came up in me for some reason at the time and I was, I’ve really had to deal with this. And so I knew that it had been affecting me in all these ways and I can’t live with us anymore. It’s got to come out. And so I never told anybody in my whole life and then I went on facebook and did a live and told the whole world difficult and I was in absolute breakdown, but it was such a relief to have it out. And the other thing that was beautiful about it is I had just hundreds of messages from women from all over the world saying, Hey, this happened to me as well. Um, you know, I’m really grateful that you have, you’ve come out about it because it’s given me a little bit of hope or just made me feel not alone.
Kathy: 18:28 So yeah. I’m so sorry to hear that you went through that experience, but I’m glad to hear that you felt that sense of relief when you did tell everybody on facebook. and you also referenced it in your, your bio and your book as well. So you know, hats off to you for having the courage to talk about it.
Sunniva: 18:53 Thank you. I just, I believe that we’ve all gone through trauma. Like I don’t think there’s anybody that hasn’t experienced some kind of trauma and it doesn’t matter how small or big it is, we will feel it and experience it in different ways and we have the ability to turn that pain into power. So it’s how we choose to look at it and now I choose to look at all the experiences in my life, even the really difficult and challenging ones as something that can be turned into a positive, something that I’m able to use in my coaching and help my clients with. So I’m grateful for all of it.
Kathy: 19:29 Yeah, you’re absolutely right. All their experiences, I believe that are built up and we creates who we are today. You know, interesting…. When you were in 19, that was a big year for you, It seems like. you mentioned it earlier, that you started your real estate portfolio at age 19. I don’t know what 19 year olds in New Zealand are like normally, but most of the ones I’ve known don’t go out and buy houses
Sunniva: 19:29 No.
Kathy: 20:03 And so what inspired you as a 19 year old to go out and buy your first house?
Sunniva: 20:08 Well, I was, so what happened was I was finishing up this, uh, finish out this journalism diploma that I was doing and a great thing about my upbringing was my parents have really instilled in me this belief that we shouldn’t have debt. And uh, so I went out and worked really long hours to pay, pay off my journalism diploma because they didn’t want to have any debt and I was working insane hours.
Sunniva: 20:38 I would never do this now. But that was, it was, it was a great thing. I was working multiple jobs. I was working about 80 plus hours a and then I was like, right, well I’m going to save some money and go travel around the world. Um, because I really love traveling. I’ve always had a real passion for it. And then I went past this real estate office one day and saw a property in the window that was like, wow, I really love that I want it and how can I make it work? That’s, that’s my belief system. It’s not, it’s not like, oh, I can’t afford it or can’t do it. It’s like, how can I make it work? There’s always a way. And so I went and talked to real estate agents, looked at properties, talk to banks, probably mortgage brokers the whole thing, and managed to pull it together and bought my first property, which was a little two bedroom unit in Queenstown,
Kathy: 20:38 And then it just dominoed, right?
Sunniva: 21:42 Well, yeah, just like continual hard work. It really was. I have this acronym that I that I refer to a lot and I teach my clients is cave and it’s conviction, action, vision and elevation, and when you apply those things to your life, you can make everything that you really want to happen. And I had action and I had the action. So the big thing that can sometimes be missing from you know that the law of attraction and the secret and that kind of thing inside just a really hard work that you need to put into something that you believe in. So if you want it, then the massive action thing is has got to be a huge element of anything that you do.
Kathy: 22:28 Right? If you want something you got to act on, it can’t just be that. That makes a lot of sense. And then you built a multimillion dollar property portfolio. By the time you were in your early thirties, you built two successful businesses. You released a bestselling APP and now you’ve authored two bestselling books. Was becoming a millionaire or multimillionaire by that age on your goal list when you were 19?
Sunniva: 22:57 Yeah, absolutely. It was, um, uh, when I was 19, I was 19. I have 10 things done that I really wanted in my life and that was one of them. And um, I wrote these things down and put them in an envelope and forgot about them for a couple of years. And then it came up when I was moving one day and I opened it and I was like, wow, everything on this list has happened, including a couple that probably shouldn’t be like getting engaged. And that was just really not a good idea, a real to me and say, well, this, like, I didn’t know the word manifestation back then. I didn’t really use that word until the last few years. But I realized how powerful it is when you set intention that when you decide, when you get that absolute clarity and focus on what you want, the universe rises to meet you and it’s such a beautiful cocreation that we get to be part of.
Kathy: 24:07 Right. So you wrote down your list and then you took off with your action to make it happen.
Sunniva: 24:14 Yes, absolutely. But I wasn’t actually thinking about it. I was never focused on the list. Like I said, I wrote it down and put it away and forgot about it. So interesting. Subconsciously, yes, I was taking the action, but it wasn’t. It wasn’t like a headed up on a vision board and I was looking at it every day and thinking of that. Then it just, it’ll that it’ll happened.
Kathy: 24:35 Well, you know, interesting that I read in your book, after you’ve gained success in business and after you’ve checked off all of their goals, do you want to do accomplish… You wrote that you still felt empty inside, that you were no longer satisfied with the status quo, feeling unfulfilled and unhappy. I think this is a really important topic to point out because I believe there’s a lot of other people who might be feeling the same way. People seemingly they have a great life, but they’re feeling unfulfilled. Can you share what you did after asking yourself those questions and how you took some action for that?
Sunniva: 25:18 Yeah, absolutely. I got really deep into personal development work and that has been an absolute game changer for me. I continue to, Gosh, I spend outrageous amounts on personal development because it’s the most important thing in my life and I’m constantly investing in it for both myself and for my clients because it’s a never ending work. There’s always another to unravel unraveling to go through, which is the joy of it for me. I get bored easily. I liked change and I like challenge and so I love that [inaudible], but that’s been the thing that has absolutely changed everything for me and one reason that it has is because often we have these goals in life that are ego goals. The goals to have a nice job, have a nice car, have a nice house, travel like you know, a life that looks good, but what, what’s really important is a life that feels good.
Sunniva: 26:19 So it’s changing that focus from the ego goals to the soul goals, the goals that like the ones that fire you up and you’re passionate about and really, really drive you and so you know, material things and never going to provide that kind of that satisfaction. That’s that kind of happiness and that gratitude and a lot of that really comes from doing the things that light you up and also being in service to others. So it was when I stopped moving into service and especially with the, with the work that I do now and the coaching and the running events and things and like being able to create change in other people’s lives. That’s what gives me purpose. That’s what fires me up and now I’m so inspired and just and so on purpose every day.
Kathy: 27:07 So your purpose is to coach and help other people at the moment.
Sunniva: 27:14 And it always evolves, and that’s the thing that we, we get to continually grow and change and evolve because that’s a human thing, right?
Kathy: 27:20 That’s right. That’s right. We’re always evolving. Let me go back and ask you that. Ego goals versus soul goals. Is this, which you mean you referenced stop living by default? Is that what you kinda mean? When you live by default, you’re just on this, what do you call it? The norm track. Our social norm track of what we’re supposed to accomplish and buy. Is that what you mean by living by default?
Sunniva: 27:49 Somewhat, yeah, like living by default is when we’re kind of on autopilot, which is how we operate. A lot of … by living by default means we are just doing what’s expected of us or what we think is the right thing without questioning it and getting clear on what it is that we really want to do and what we, again, like what our soul wants and luckily I believe society is starting to shift in that way because we have such amazing access to social networks and the Internet and we are questioning more rather than believing that we just have to live like everybody else that we have to do the nine to five type of family and the white picket fence and you know, just pay off a mortgage and then we retire and then we die. That’s not, that’s not necessarily a satisfying life than most people and the worst thing you can do is get to the interview left and have regret about not doing the things that you were like not going after your dreams.
Kathy: 28:53 That’s so true and luckily for us, there’s people like you who are great role models to show us that there is another way to living life by default. You also talk about finding our purpose and so that way we can get out of living at a default and you say you can’t think your way into finding your life purpose. You have to do your way into it. What do you mean by that?
Sunniva: 29:22 It’s taking action, so when we don’t know what we want to do, just keep stepping forward anyway. Just keep trying things on, right? It’s like to try new things and see what feels good and then when you find something that feels good, do more of it, and then if it feels like if it’s amazing, then do more of that. Or if it’s like, no, this isn’t quite right, change direction, but it’s about always taking the action and taking a step forward rather than what A. I think there’s an old saying something about spendng your life standing on one foot. It’s that indecision and the fear that holds us back because we have this. We always have all these fears come up like, what if I do this wrong? What if it doesn’t work out? What will people think of me? Will I be judged? Will be criticized, like, will I fail? We’re so scared of failure and things not working that we just don’t even try them on.
Kathy: 30:15 Right. That’s so true. And then you alluded earlier as well that we don’t necessarily have to have one life purpose. We can have several, right?
Sunniva: 30:25 Yes, absolutely. I like one of my purposes is to be an amazing mother. I’m super passionate about racing this next generation of game changers. I believe that our young people are going to absolutely change the world. It gives me goosebumps to think about it so that isn’t a huge purpose of mine. And then of course another purpose of mine is really being in service to women and helping them find their purpose and their passion and created life on their own terms and I’m sure many others, but those are two that really come to mind for me right at this moment.
Kathy: 30:59 I remember you ask your readers a very captivating question. You ask if you knew you were going to die in six months, what would you be doing differently now? I love that question. It’s a heart stopping question. Is there anything that you would want to do differently?
Sunniva: 31:21 Right now? No. Gosh, I’m loving the most beautiful. I love that. I really, I spend something I’m super passionate about is journaling and I spend time journaling every morning. Uh, it’s a priority for me because that’s where I can get clarity on what it is that lights me up and what it is that I really want to be doing. And so having, having that time makes me, makes me get clear that I’m going in the right direction. And so I had to say yes to life every time.
Kathy: 31:21 You’re living it already. That’s great.
Sunniva: 31:58 Yeah. The only thing that I guess it’s like one thing that I’d love to do, um, at some point in my life and sooner rather than later I’m swim with manta rays. Oh, right. So that’s on the list for next time I’m in Hawaii because I think, gosh, that’s such a magical creatures and I’m obsessed. I’m living just the most beautiful life. I travel, I travel all the time. I work with women that I love so, so much. I’ve just bought my dream property. Yeah. There’s nothing I can really speak to on that.
Kathy: 32:40 For someone, Sunniva, who may be listening and is perhaps maybe struggling, I don’t know, maybe it’s the money issue or maybe they just want to change a current situation, but are feeling stuck. What advice would you like to share with them?
Sunniva: 32:55 Get Out of your own way. Because the thing is, we all have these excuses about time and money, but honestly they are bullshit. I just can’t and I’m like, I have so much love for people when I say that, but people need to realize that they are the ones that are stopping their own results. I recently had a situation come up with the dream property that I bought and I’m not sure if we’re connected on facebook, but I’ve been talking about this a lot lately because it was a really huge deal for me. The dream property that I bought, we, uh, that’s a kind of a long story. I’ll try to keep it really short. I was away at a retreat. My phone was off for four days. We’re in the middle of negotiating on this property. My husband’s never done a property deal before because I always do it and he signed unconditional on this property where the deposit that we did not have, so it’s $60,000 and I came back to find the banks wouldn’t lend us the money because we’d just been through a big refinancing situation and we had to somehow come up with $60,000.
Sunniva: 34:09 We didn’t have that money. Oh boy. So, and we had to come up with it in two weeks.
Sunniva: 34:19 A little bit of me went into victim, I had to it like a little bit of was like, how could you do this to me like to my husband, like, like getting angry at him for putting us in this situation. And then I caught myself out on that and then I turned it into, okay, how are we going to make this happen? And uh, somehow and those two weeks we managed to pull it together and I paid the deposit and full yesterday.
Kathy: 34:19 Awesome. That’s a great story.
Sunniva: 34:48 Yeah. And it doesn’t matter the amount because we’ve done this over and over again. There’s been so many circumstances in my life where I’ve never had the money, I’ve not had the money to get a coach that I wanted or to buy property or to do any of the things that I really wanted to do. Go on a trip and every single time because I’ve set the intention and I’ve taken massive action. I’ve made it work and I know it’s. It can seem a little bit distant for some people, but it doesn’t really matter what the circumstance is. There is always a way.
Kathy: 35:19 There’s always a way. I mean, you seem like the poster child for that book, The Secret. I mean you’re manifesting everything. A lot of attraction, a lot of energy and yeah, they should just make a poster and put your face on it.
Kathy: 35:36 Well, okay, so you’re a transformational coach. I’m curious, what would you say is the underlying theme that most of your clients want to work on?
Sunniva: 35:47 It depends on what, which part of the business. So my private clients, they own their own businesses or their other coaches and so that’s a whole different level than the woman in my programs and the Life On Your Terms programs, the biggest thing, did you say that comes up for them? Yes. Okay, so the biggest thing that comes up for them, which is interesting and it’s not what they come into the programs for. That always is the thing is the self worth issues and feelings of not being enough, not being good enough, not being capable enough, not being like there’s always this not enoughness.. Interesting. Yeah. It’s really interesting and I’ve seen it in myself for sure. It’s definitely been a thing that has come up for me and I see it come up in everybody
Kathy: 36:38 Do you mean it’s not enough that they’re not enough to deserve something good or what their goal is?
Sunniva: 36:45 They don’t feel like they let the self worth thing and they don’t feel like they’re good enough. They don’t feel capable enough and they don’t feel worthy enough, so it all stems back to the same thing. It’s just that not enoughness and it’s something something that often goes back to like childhood kind of for a lot of us that in some shape of form that’s. That’s a thing that’s holding us back.
Kathy: 37:15 I see. Sunniva we could go on and on and talk about your book. There are so many helpful tips. Is there anything else you’d like to share with listeners that maybe we haven’t covered that you’d really want to talk about?
Sunniva: 37:27 One thing that I really like to refer to is that there is no growth in a comfort zone, so it’s that willingness to get uncomfortable and you can, you know, there might be something that’s really challenging for you right now and it might feel really big. So look at some way that you can, you can push your comfort zone and expand your inches in smaller waves and build muscles to make you more capable to deal with the bigger things. And it could be for me and I’m like, I’ve always been very introverted and shy and so like ways that I expand my inches are going and talking to strangers or a, it was doing more video and facebook live and public speaking and those sort of things. So it really pushed me out of my comfort zone. So whatever it is for you, just start somewhere and get comfortable with being uncomfortable.
Kathy: 38:15 Get comfortable with being uncomfortable. That’s a good one. Sunniva Holt is talking with us, author of two fantastic books, The Hustle Life and now her latest book, Life on Your Terms, Seven Steps to Creating the Life you Always Wanted. I’ve read both and highly recommend them. We’re going to include links to your books and your website as well, And Sunniva if someone has a question or wants to reach out to you, inquire about your coaching or anything else. How can they get ahold of you?
Sunniva: 38:44 Oh yes, please do. I love. I really love connecting with people. They can find me on instagram, on facebook, and on my website under Sunniva Holt. one of those are the main places I hang out. I’m quite active on instagram and facebook, so come connect with me, and yeah.
Kathy: 39:02 Terrific. Thank you so much Sunniva for sharing your story and all those fabulous tips.
Sunniva: 39:08 Thank you so much for having me on Kathy. Beautiful.
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