After losing her high-school sweetheart and husband of 27 years to brain cancer at the age of 42, Lisa Nicks-Balthasar shares her journey of overcoming loss, grief and the power of love. A part of her process of overcoming pain was to write her memoir, Believe!.  Today, Lisa is a writer, speaker, and co-founder of The Heart of Manifestation, where she helps empower individuals to feel control over their destiny and desires.

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Lisa:                                     00:01                    I am very candid and open in my book and my memoir, and as you read, one of the first things that I did that was out of character is I. I had an affair with a man much younger than me. He was 20 years younger and I found in those moments of bliss, of sexual bliss, those fleeting moments, I wasn’t feeling the pain of grief.

Kathy:                                  00:32                    Hello and welcome to The Inspire Cafe Podcast where we bring you conversations and inspirational stories of people overcoming adversity and then how they came out of it transformed with the positive outlook or outcome. People are incredibly resilient and we need to hear more of their stories. This is Kathy De La Torre.

Kathy:                                  00:54                    Hello, and today we’re talking with Lisa Nicks-Balthasar about  losing her high school sweetheart and husband of 27 years to brain cancer at the young age of 42. Lisa shares her journey of overcoming loss, grief, and the power of love. A part of her process of overcoming the pain was to write her memoir called Believe!. Today. Lisa is a writer, speaker, and cofounder of the heart, a manifestation where she helps empower individuals to feel control over their destiny and desires. Lisa also share some terrific offers and discounts at the end of the interviews, so be sure to stick around to hear that. We’ll also have links to Lisa and a transcript of this interview at the Inspire Cafe Dot com. Okay. Let’s get to Lisa Story.

Kathy:                                  01:39                    So Lisa, thank you so much. I got the opportunity to receive and read the manuscript of your book that hasn’t been published yet. Believe! first of all, I have to tell you that I read it and it was very, very touching and I admit there was a part when I teared up and anyway, I just wanted to tell you congratulations on your new book and it’s a memoir about loving grief and loss and learning to love again and then a bunch of other stuff and you mentioned in the book, but can you share what inspired you to write it?

Lisa:                                     02:15                    Oh my goodness. Well first, Kathy, I just really want to thank you for having me be on your podcast and I love listening to all the inspirational stories and that really dovetails into the answer about what inspired me to write this book. And this moment always comes to mind because my story is called believe. And there’s a whole reason behind that because you’ve read the book and maybe we’ll get into that conversation. But, um, I actually started writing my book not knowing it was a book, but I started to write it on an envelope at the hospital. My husband, who I’d been with 16 years old, we were born on the same day, same year. We were two hours and 20 minutes apart and he often joked I was the older one. He often joke that he liked older women. Robin. Yep. Two hours and 20 minutes that’ll do it.

Lisa:                                     03:15                    So, um, we were really told true, true soulmates and together from 16 and at the age of 42 when I found myself in the emergency room being told by the doctor that they were finding abnormal abscesses or something in his brain and the word cancer came out of the mouth of the doctor, you know, my life kind of froze in that moment. And um, I didn’t hear much of anything afterwards and we were whisked into another area where they were going to scan his brain a second time. And I found through this journey that I just had all these feelings and I started right on this envelope because that’s the only piece of paper I could find. Just what I was feeling and processing. And so my words then started going to a journal and we’re really started to turn into a book. Was after he passed, I was reaching, reaching, reaching, reaching for help and support.

Lisa:                                     04:20                    And I ended up in a support group, a grief support group. And as I walked in as a 42 year old widow with two teenage daughters, I was surrounded by women and men that were all in their sixties, seventies and eighties, more the age where you lose a spouse. And I shared with some of my writing, some of my, what I would call pros or poems, and they were so moved that they suggested you really have a way with words. You should write a book. This will be helpful for those that are on the journey after losing someone in grief or someone trying to believe in love again. So that’s the first part of the answer. And the second part of the answer is I am very candid, open in my book and my memoir. And as you read, one of the first things that I did that was out of character is I, I had an affair with a man much younger than me.

Lisa:                                     05:21                    He was 20 years younger. And I found in those moments of bliss, of sexual bliss, those fleeting moments, I wasn’t feeling the pain of grief. And I knew, I knew that that was an escape. I was very clear. I knew this was a relationship that wasn’t going to go anywhere. I was flattered that this young man was interested in me, but really my head was spinning. My heart was broken and it was just an escape. And what happened was one night I was reading a pile of books other women men had written about grief and this woman was about how she found herself having an affair with a much younger man and how those moments of Bliss Sexual Bliss helped her escape and I just started to cry and I just thought, I’m not alone. I’m not. Other women have done this and it and I and I had this pivotal moment where I thought if I can help one person like myself with my book, if they’re reading it and they’re going through a tough time and they can read the words that helped me, then it’s worth all.

Lisa:                                     06:28                    It’s been a ten year process. It’s been. It’s. It’s worth it because that was a deep, dark hole I was in. So that’s a long answer, but as you can tell, I’m very, very passionate about the story and about helping to inspire and help others that maybe want to give up on love or life or happiness because there’s. There’s a lot or that my life is amazing and wonderful and beautiful now and I still feel the grief of the loss of my husband, but the journey I’ve been on and my book, my story gets that across about really keep living life. Because no matter when your heart is broken from love falling apart, whether it’s divorce or a betrayal or data, there’s so much out there to experience in life and so much that you just have no idea if you don’t just take a step up and allow yourself to take that journey towards the light towards,

Kathy:                                  07:21                    well, this is very interesting to me in a sense that. How were you able, you personally able to, like you just said, very yourself towards the light because I can’t imagine losing your husband and I think you said you were together for 27 years. He was the love of your life and how, how awful and traumatic that was for you. How did you get yourself to steer to the light?

Lisa:                                     07:48                    Well, I remember in the darkest point that I was, and I bring this part up because that’s where I had to make a choice to go towards the light, towards loving, towards healing my heart, uh, towards living. And at the darkest point I remember there were a lot of them, but I remember one where, and I love listening to music. I’m a very active woman. I love to dance and exercise and be outdoors and I of nothing. After his death I found myself sitting on the floor. Music reminded me of him. Every song I heard had memories I couldn’t. I just felt for a while it was very, very hard to consider going on and creating. It was like half of me died. It was like a half of my identity. Being with him for so long died and I had to recreate myself and I literally, I was raising a 14 year old, my 14 year old daughter at home.

Lisa:                                     08:49                    My 18 year old went off to college, so I lost my husband and my daughter. Essentially the was, you know, there were two losses and my 14 year old daughter was struggling like most 14 teenage girls do. And so we were butting heads and I remember sitting there on the floor one night watch, listen to music or anything and I just thought, I just want to be dead. I, I don’t want to feel this pain. This is too hard. How am I going to go on? And I just, I realized when I went inside my heart and I’ve always gone back inside of my heart and I thought, well, first off, I have so much life left to live and Keith would want me to live this life. And secondly, I have to. I have to get up one step in front of the other.

Lisa:                                     09:36                    Even if I’m faking it till I make it. And I have to believe in love and I have to believe in being here for my children. And setting a good example of overcoming the grief and believing in love and, and letting his spirit carry on through my life and through my work and it was just kind of a really powerful moment for me and I, I made that decision and I just kept taking one step in front of the other and started exercising and started getting into support groups and therapy and writing in my journal. And it was, it was, uh, it was an ongoing part of me that knew I needed to go on and I also knew I wanted to love again. I just knew I wanted to love again. Yeah, I did.

Kathy:                                  10:24                    I’m curious, did you and your husband Keith have any conversations? Like I’m not talking about when he got ill. Just any time during your relationship, those would have conversations. Well, if something happened to me and you were by yourself would want you to get remarried or meet somebody new or anything like that. So did you have any conversations about what you guys would are expected to do for each other afterwards?

Lisa:                                     10:53                    I wish you could see my face because as you’re asking me this I, my eyes are sparkling. I can feel it and I have a smile on my face and I’m trying to completely tap into why that is and I, and I think it’s because I really haven’t had anyone ask me that question before and it’s making me know and it’s surprising and because he’s been gone for awhile now and so what’s coming to mind is conversations and I’m laughing and smiling and my eyes are sparkling because we were together for so long that conversations would come up about that. I’m not often, but when they did, I would always tell him and he, Keith would always tell me, I would want you to love again. I don’t want you to spend the rest of your life not loving. I mean we both really appreciated the amount of love that we had for each other and knew that we were a gift to each other and it would be a waste for him to go on and not love again. But the, my eyes were sparkling and laughing. Is that I would always tease him and he would tease me back, but uh, but of course you know, you’re not going to live anybody as much as she loved me. Right?

Lisa:                                     12:06                    You know, and, and, and then what’s so funny about it is as you’ve read the book, and I’m jumping ahead here, but one of the beautiful gifts of loving again after you lose someone to death or divorce, because I actually went through a second huge which broke my heart, yet a second time in that actually spiraled me deeper into depression than, than even before it was just a double blow. But on a positive inspirational side. And following up on Keith and my conversation about loving again that this appreciation and gratitude that you have for relationship, it’s very easy when you fall in love in the beginning for it to be wonderful and exciting. And then you settle into the relationship and then it, you know, you start to, to have a life that doesn’t have that fresh newness and it’s easy. And that’s why so many people end up getting divorced or separated and they start the process all over again.

Lisa:                                     13:06                    But for me, this, yes, this level of appreciation and gratitude that I have for love and the relationship and the marriage I’m in now is a gift every day because when I find myself feeling frustrated or overwhelmed or different things within the relationship, I just shifted immediately, not immediately all the time, but pretty quickly to what it felt to be alone and to not have that person in my life that I love so much and I just have such gratitude. So in some ways you. I don’t want to discount my love for Keith because he was an amazing man and I still love him, but I think you have just a deeper gratitude laugh when it comes in the second time around. There’s this, this appreciation that you couldn’t have had before, if that makes sense.

Kathy:                                  13:55                    Well, it does make sense because especially from an experience like you had losing your love when you understand that life is so fleeting and can’t take it for granted. Yeah. And so that does make a lot of sense.

Lisa:                                     14:09                    He was 42 in the prime of his life and he was in excellent shape. You know, played football, tried out for the 40 niners was, you know, he was an awesome, awesome shape and yeah, you never know. One day you’re fine and the next day you have four tumors in your brain. It’s just a go figure,

Kathy:                                  14:29                    Go figure. Right. I’m curious about something that you hadn’t mentioned earlier that you had started an affair with a younger man and I’ve read that it’s common that widows or widowers, that it’s common for them to feel guilty for wanting to date. Yes. Afterwards. Did you have that yourself?

Lisa:                                     14:55                    Oh yes. Oh my goodness. Yes. I was ostracized by some people that were actually very, very dear friends. I, I really found out who my true dearest friends were because the ones that really stuck by my side said, I have no idea how I would handle it if I lost my husband and I may not agree with some of the choices you’re making, but I’m here to support you and love you. And what happened was I, I always leaned on once my husband was diagnosed with brain cancer, the girls and I and my husband went to therapy to just deal with that. And then afterwards I was doing therapy with my daughters and myself personally. I really wanted to try and work through this whole process, which was devastating to our family. But my own personal conversation with a therapist, which was really powerful in regards to the guilt I was feeling.

Lisa:                                     15:57                    I asked the therapist, I said, I left Keith so much. I was with them for 27 years. I’m, why do I feel that I’m so sure I want to get married again and I want to love again so quickly I was feeling that. And what is there something wrong with me? Um, it’s not that I don’t live Keith, I just feel this is it, that I’m afraid to be alone. And we talked about it for awhile and she said something so powerful to me and she said that the men and women that have had a very solid, strong relationship, whether it’s marriage or commitment to one another, those people are the ones that almost consistently remarry or want to fall in love very quickly, often afterwards. And it’s almost a testament to the relationship because you’ve had such a great relationship. You’re finding that missing and you’re wanting to go into it again. And that was powerful when she shared that with me, I, I really, it was, it helped me understand myself better. And that helped. It helped a lot.

Kathy                                   17:02                    That’s interesting. I never would’ve thought of that, that having such a healthy, loving relationship for all those people consistently, they would get into a new relationship soon after. I guess that makes sense because I imagined that because he has such a great experience that you want that experience again or you know, it could be good again.

Lisa:                                     17:26                    Yes. Yes. And, and I will say a couple things that are coming to mind. One was in the support group that I mentioned earlier where the women and men were older. This was through hospice. I had one woman who was really passing judgment on me and said, I don’t know how you can even think about dating again. I loved my husband so much. They’ll never be anyone like him. I never remarried. I don’t want to date and I don’t understand how you’re wanting to, and I found it was interesting because she ended up getting into a relationship and getting married before I did and I never said to her, but she actually apologized and said, I think I was just feeling so protective over the love I had for my husband and you’re being candid and honest about wanting to love again. Just didn’t resonate with me, but yet the more time she spent alone, the more she realized she wanted to love again.

Lisa:                                     18:23                    And so that’s one thing that comes to mind, but the guilt. I think Kathy, one of the harder things is that because I was with him 27 years, even when I did meet the second man in the book that I thought I would of just totally was a prince charming and whisked me off my feet and my family brought me roses on what would’ve been the anniversary of my husband’s death. I mean truly just, you know, poems, the whole thing. I always felt at that point in time, it was about about three years after Keith staff, I felt like, oh, I hope I can love him as much as he loves me because I still was doing some comparison to my husband at that point in my mind, even though I didn’t want to. I did and that was a difficult part of the journey. And eventually my, my.

Lisa:                                     19:16                    I shifted to where I realized that the heart is a really beautiful gift that we all have and it’s capable. I mean, we love many, many people, you know, friends, family, and we can also love very deeply assault and that doesn’t discount the one you’ve had before. If anything, it makes your heart being able to open wider, to love each time, especially if you can do the healing, which was a huge part of my journey. I had to do a great deal of healing from my heart. Everyone handles loss and grief differently. What would you say that helped you most in your journey as well? I think that the part that really was helpful for me and it, and it was hard to hear this sometimes because I was hearing it from people who were in happy relationships or marriages, but I was hearing advice of you have to learn to be alone.

Lisa:                                     20:21                    You have to learn to not need someone to complete you. And I would actually get mad at some people and my mother, I haven’t yelled at her about it. Well, how do you know, you know, you’ve been with your father for all these years. And then I kind of had this Aha moment where I realized that I was okay being alone. And um, my therapist actually said at the time that I was still seeing her said, it’s not that you’re not okay being alone. It’s that you have a preference, you have a strong preference to want to be in a relationship. You can keep that as how you’re feeling, but at the same time, really discover Lisa. Well, when I stepped out of this, I realized I could do whatever I wanted. At that point, my daughter was off to college. I didn’t have anybody in my life and I just started trying new things and that’s how I ended up at burning man of all places.

Lisa:                                     21:15                    So yeah, I mean it’s all about choice and I still teach that now in what I dwelled into with this journey is it’s all about choices and if you choose to stay in a place of grief and sadness and loss and why this happened to me, you’re going to live your life that way. But when you choose to take in the gifts, I had so many signs that Keith was still watching over me and still a part of my life. And those were inspirational signs that I knew that what I was doing was on the right track. And so the more that I trusted that and opened up my heart, the more amazing, miraculous, beautiful things manifested in my life. And so it just kept feeding itself. So it’s really an attitude of gratitude, you know, you hear that a lot, but it’s true. It’s an attitude of gratitude.

Lisa:                                     22:03                    I mean, I, because I had all these years left, I don’t know how many everyday is a gift, but I decided Keith and my girls and my family and most of all myself did not want to spend it just being in grief and anger that this happened to me. And um, and when you start to change your mindset and you have that attitude of gratitude and you open up your heart to love and to healing and to sing beautiful signs, amazing things started happening in my life which created this, this now memoir, this inspirational memoir called Believe! that actually the story attracted an attention of a Hollywood screenplay writer who happened to end up sitting in our hot tub. One with my new, my new husband. And he spent the weekend with us. So he wanted to hear my inspirational story. And how I found love the story of the candle, the magical candle. And as I shared it with him in the hot tub, he just said, oh my gosh, this needs to be a movie. You have the perfect arch, you need to finish your book. And so that was another magical thing that popped into my life because I chose to make the choices to believe in love and believe in healing and manifest and other beautiful life. So there’s so much to share. It’s all in the book. I want to share part of this story.

Kathy:                                  23:22                    You know, we don’t want to have any spoilers though, right? Yeah, right, right. I know, I know. So yeah. So you, you mentioned a possible movie. Does that mean that your book might become a movie?

Lisa:                                     23:42                    Well, we’re hoping so. We actually have few connections going right now with people who have worked in the Hollywood industry and we have gone to New York with the story. We had an invitation to take Believe! to New York, which actually launched a whole other heart of manifestation, which I can talk about later. And there has been connections here and there and those that know the story. Scott Marshall Smith, a screenplay writer and this other gentleman that worked in the industry have suggested that it might be a better vehicle for a mini series type of, you know, there’s a lot of those hbo and all those types of things. So I’m just continuing my manifesting and believing in what the story I have to share. And it’s, Oh, it’s all based in wanting to inspire love and healing. It’s not about fame and fortune at all. It’s about those people with broken hearts.

Lisa:                                     24:38                    And there’s a lot of us out there and giving inspirational and a story that is, is I’m still. I still can’t believe what happened to me in burning man with taking my husband’s ashes and the sacred candle. I was lighting and. Well, let’s talk about that really quickly. How did you meet your current husband? Well, you know, it’s interesting because it’s a spoiler. If I, if I question what’s interesting is I was on another podcast and I shared the story, but still people might be interested in reading the book. I think. I think I can tell the story without completely telling the story. How’s that? I couldn’t do that. So really short, so that way it’s just a teaser. So the way I met my current husband, I can share this because I think this is a powerful, powerful lesson. So I ended up going to burning man and for those of you that don’t know what burning man is, it’s a huge, huge festival in the desert in Nevada and at the time I went there were 65,000 people literally from all over the world and it’s art and music and there’s no money.

Lisa:                                     25:54                    There’s no cell phones. It’s self reliance. It’s. It was very intriguing to me but also a little scary because sometimes it has a reputation of drugs, alcohol, sex and just, you know, crazy hippies, but it’s. It’s not that it’s, it’s just really a beautiful experiment for creating a whole city complete with the hospital post office center camp and the whole thing. Anyway, I went because there is a temple that they burn on the last night and I wanted to take some of key ashes and at the time it had been eight years since his passing and I felt that I wanted to honor the new woman I had become every eight years your body goes through a cycle with your cellular system that you actually become a new all your skin, the whole thing. So I went there never expecting to meet anybody just to really honor Keith and takes his ashes and this is the part of the story for those of you including myself, that in the back of your mind you have this visual picture of who it is you’re looking for, what the person would look like, that would be your soul mate, and we get kind of stuck in that tunnel vision sometimes.

Lisa:                                     27:07                    I know I did. No, I did know you just. You kind of have this visualization. Well, I walked into motor home one evening and when I was there with a girlfriend I had gone to burning man with and there were a group of people sitting in this motor home and they had been drinking. I had had nothing to drink and everyone was very friendly and loving and coming up and kissing me on the mouth and hugging me and I’m high. This was kind of like, oh, okay. Hey, I’m at burning man.

Lisa:                                     27:45                    And there was this one man I was sitting at this table in the motor home with blue glitter on his goatee because it Bernie man, you’d get into fun costumes. That’s part of the whole thing and I guess someone slept blue litter on his goatee. Anyway, I went. I was kind of indifferent to him. I wasn’t Ooh, and I wasn’t, oh, I got to kiss him, but I just, for some reason because I was in that environment and he was the only one that didn’t come up and kiss me. I just said, oh, I guess I should give you a kiss to bending over to give him a kiss. I really get anything out of it and once I touched his lips, this sounds like I’m really saying, but this is truly how it happened. I stood up and my whole being, I just literally, my body just went.

Lisa:                                     28:39                    I don’t know if you can hear that, but it was like this exhale that went down to a soul level. It was like my body relaxed. It was like I had been holding my breath from the moment I heard the word cancer and I and I felt like home and peace and safe and I just looked into his brown eyes and this blue glitter on his beard and I was really blown away that, I mean in the real world I would have swiped left or whatever it is or I would have not picked him up on match. I went to have necessarily and, and he’s a very nice looking man. He just, he wasn’t in my realm of what I thought I was looking for and actually I wasn’t in his either, but because I was able to touch his lips expecting nothing, I was able to feel this, this chemistry, this energy, which we’ve all experienced where you have this unexplained like, oh my gosh, there’s something really powerful here.

Lisa:                                     29:35                    And then later on in the night, but we found out that we lived about 40 minutes from each other. There are people from all over the country in that motor home, but ironically, we lived so close and my name at burning man was shooting star. He didn’t even know my name is Lisa. Till about the third day he knew me. He called me star. That’s a whole nother part of the story. But um, but the magical part comes later in the book and it’s all revolved around this lighting of this candle that really spoke to me. It’s a ritual which I really teach in my heart of manifestation, which is power of positive affirmation, attitude of gratitude, positive affirmations where you see and visualize and speak words of what you would love to have happen in the deepest part of your heart. And there’s this amazing. Just blew me out of the water. My mouth dropped down, goosebumps all over my body when I found out a connection between Chris, my now husband, and I’m an affirmation I had had. So I don’t know. That’s intriguing enough. Right?

Kathy:                                  30:46                    And so the new love story began.

Lisa:                                     30:48                    Yes. And it just kind of kept going and I did so much healing through my relationship. We were married five years after we met. He had younger children than I. He was younger by five years. So see, I started off. I’ve always had the younger man, right? First it was two hour and 20 minutes and then it turned into five years and I’m so I am a mother for the third time to my third set of teenagers because this man in between that devastated me also had teenagers and. And that part of the story is. But you know, actually Kathy and you’ve read it, but it wasn’t like I went from my husband’s death to find this amazing love story. I had a second low story that ended in betrayal and he, you know, all just, it was really hard. So snowballs save that for the book. Yeah. We don’t want give away too much. I just. It’s inspirational.

Kathy:                                  31:44                    Yes it is. And I think that’s also part of your story of overcoming the struggle and the heartbreak, different kinds of heartbreak, but ending in the positive. And before we get to the heart of manifestation, I just had another question for you. After everything that you’ve gone through and all the new wisdoms that you learned over the years, is there any one lesson that you would like to leave or instill in your daughters or lead with your granddaughters?

Lisa:                                     32:14                    Well, I think it’s the way I’ve always lived my life and I live it even more so since case staff. And again I’ll bring up gratitude, but one of the things I firmly believe in is to really stay attached and connected to your heart and to our. And this is kind of what I would I, it’s, it’s part of what we teach and the heart of manifestation. It’s how I wanted to raise my girls and we as a society, as humanity, especially in today’s world with a lot of the challenges, social media and pulling away and God knows what else you know, global warming, whatever your mind can start to really spiral or experiences you’ve had in your life that have pushed you down and caused you to be negative. And so if, if you can really go to your heart center, and so living a heart centered life, being attached to your heart also puts you in a place of forgiveness, of gratitude, of love.

Lisa:                                     33:22                    And what my daughters have often said is, mom, you’ve really, you know, you’re so positive. You always, you always stay in the positive. You’re, you are open to change and new people and you try. I never really heard you are. You talk bad about people and you just have such a love of life. And I see them doing that too. And I see my grandchildren. I have a amazing. I love being a grandmother that I have an eight year old and six year old little granddaughters and we talk about living through the heart. Even with them, I say go to your heart. So yeah, that’s a really good message to lead with your family. That’s beautiful. Lisa, let’s talk about your business hard manifestation. Tell us a little bit about what you do and what you offer. Thanks Cathy. And so what happened was, and this is another lesson I think or for anyone out there is the.

Lisa:                                     34:16                    I didn’t go seeking to do heart of manifestation. It kind of found me and what happened was I had the goal of publishing my book and it’s a lot of work to publish a book. I never realized how much and what happened was when I went to New York, I was invited to take my memoir to New York. I was approached by a publicist and a literary agent who said, have you ever thought about being an inspirational speaker? It’s inspirational, like the stories that you share. And one of them introduced me to a woman share who is an author, lives in Ohio, California. Beautiful, beautiful place and said that she had this amazing villa that she wanted to start doing retreats and workshops and I was told I needed to build a platform a following so that when I went for publishers to look at my book, they knew that I had a following already interested in what I was teaching through this book and so we together I went and met her.

Lisa:                                     35:19                    I’d never met her in person and this was about a year and three months ago. We went through a workshop and we created heart of manifestation, which is a three day workshop for women and it’s all about tapping into the heart attack ellogence and we have a private chef. You come there and get pampered with yoga in the morning and we have wonderful, amazing meals and we create the sacred container where where women come in and really just happened to unplug from their cell phones from their life to really get into their heart center and we’ve had women leave and find amazing love. One woman went and found this amazing love and ended up getting married. Another woman who found a dream job. Another woman who came was dealing with severe anxiety and surprisingly we didn’t even know that all of our meditation and the help that we did throughout this weekend releasing things that no longer serve you, she released her anxiety and no longer had to see her doctor or take her medication any longer.

Lisa:                                     36:24                    So yeah, so that’s really good. So it’s evolved into something that feels a very sole purpose for me. And I bring this up to the listeners because it was never a part of my journey. It was do the book continue with my life and my career. I’m a designer and I’ve stepped into this personal growth work and workshops. And what has happened is the women that have attended our last three workshops have come home to their husbands or boyfriends and men have asked what they’ve seen the change. They see the women coming back from war and peace, happier, able, able to fulfill more in their life. So we now are offering a retreat in Mexico and note them for both men and women and it’s a five day retreat and retreat. Have a name or a special name. Um, will the retreat in Mexico is going to work with on sacred soul mates and also manifesting.

Lisa:                                     37:26                    So what’s happening is we’re finding that a lot of the people that are attracted to coming to us are a lot of them tend to want to manifest either having a deeper sacred love that they’re already in with more sacred intimacy, more of a deeper connection and gratitude and we have the skills and components and tools that we teach to our teachings. And then we also have those that have had a broken heart and afraid to love. Again, afraid to open up. They’re afraid to trust. They’ve been in and out of bad relationships. So we’re having a component of bringing in a special counselor who does somatic healing and sacred intimacy. And so we’re offering that as well as manifesting. So those that want to come that are maybe just a place where they really want to tap in to understanding how to go about really getting deeper into the life, their heart desires and even finding out what that is.

Lisa:                                     38:24                    So it’s a broad range, but it really all gets down into manifesting and tapping into your heart to follow that connection of pushing aside subconscious blocks, which we all have our stories of why I don’t have enough money, I don’t have enough time, I can’t do this, I can’t trust again. We have ways that we help people release all that so they can free and open up and step into a life that they really love. So it’s in Todos Santos, which is a beautiful artsy community outside of Cabo San Lucas. We discussed it and we’re actually going to offer any of your listeners a 10 percent discount on the five day trip to Mexico. So that’s good.

Kathy:                                  39:07                    Pretty good deal. Yeah. So that’s terrifically. So thank you so much. So if a listener calls, do you want to register or sign up? Did they need to do anything

Lisa:                                     39:18                    we say which will be sharing here and on that website is all the information on our retreat and then there’s a contact page when they fill that out. Just have them put in inspired cafe podcast and we’ll be doing a uh, processing with them. And Pass along that 10 percent discount.

Kathy:                                  39:39                    Okay, wonderful. That’s so generous of you and I understand that you were going to offer a second offer.

Lisa:                                     39:45                    Yes. Yes. Yes. So what we do is we have different packages through heart of manifestation retreats and workshops and that is we do one on one coaching. We also do group coaching, but the one on one coaching, sole purpose coaching, I would call it life coaching. We are offering to your listeners to the first 10 that reach out to us a free gift of a 45 minutes sole purpose coaching that is specifically just for them and the tools that they’ll receive in that 45 minutes. That in itself could be life changing. I, I’ve had people who haven’t signed up for anything else but just have walked away from that conversation and they’ll have a better understanding of what it is we do and how we help make a difference in people’s lives. So I would like to do that as a gift for the first 10 people that want to reach out to them.

Kathy:                                  40:43                    No, don’t wait. There’s only 10 spots. Yes. Okay, good.

Lisa:                                     40:48                    Yeah.

Kathy:                                  40:49                    Before we tell everybody how to reach you, Lisa, is there anything else that you want to share that we haven’t covered?

Lisa:                                     40:59                    Well, you know, I knew this question was going to come in and I have so many things that I felt. What do I. what’s this magic thing that I want to share, but well, first of all of you that are listening and have listened this far, I just really want to thank you and I would say the one thing that I could share, and this has made a huge difference in my life, is every night or I go to bed when my head is spinning with all the different things. Oh, I didn’t get this done. Or Oh, what if I have to do that? Or I just closed my eyes? And if you’re listening and you’re in a place where you can do this and you can close your eyes right now, please do that. And I just get really centered on my heart and I start to think of three things that I have gratitude for. And of course there’s always my children, my grandchildren, my husband. But what always ends up happening is deeper and deeper with more and more gratitude, and I fall asleep in this amazing state of mind and I wake up that way and I really feel that if that’s one thing I can share with everyone out there, even if you’re going through a tough time, you have to find something to have gratitude for something and it’s going to make a difference. And so it really does. Yeah, that’s, that’s my by bit of share to your wonderful listeners

Kathy:                                  42:20                    And one last thing, share with us how people can get ahold of you if they have any questions.

Lisa:                                     42:34                    So the best way is our website, www.heartofmanifestation.com and it has a little mock up about, I believe the memoir. So when you sign up on there, you’ll know when the book is coming out. Plus share has her wonderful book called dog of God. There’s been information on our different retreats and workshops and then on contact us on that page you can fill in your information and once you’re on there you can also learn about our facebook pages, facebook groups that we’re going to be starting and you can leave your information and we’ll we’ll reach out to you. We also have blogs. It’s a lot of really inspirational, helpful blogs that are attached to that and youtube videos, so it’s a fun little website to maneuver around.

Kathy:                                  43:26                    Okay, good. Well, I hope people take advantage of that one on 1:45 minute call for the first 10 callers and, and then also that discount for the retreat that you have coming up. That’s exciting.

Lisa:                                     43:41                    Yeah, it’s toto Santos is November seventh through the 11th and all the information is on there so.

Speaker 3:                          43:47                    Okay. So Lisa, in order to offer listeners a chance to ask you for the questions regarding this conversation that you and I are having, if they have any questions, what we’re gonna do is pin a post on the inspire cafes facebook page and so they have many questions for you regarding this conversation. This interview, is it okay if I tag you and you can respond back?

Lisa:                                     44:17                    I welcome that with an open heart. I mean, I would love the interaction. I’m very active with our facebook pages and as I’ve said many times, this is, this is soul purpose work and giving back, so please, please ask questions. Let me help help work with any, any answers that might help guide you in a direction of healing happiness or just curiosity, so yes, definitely.

Kathy:                                  44:44                    Okay, perfect. I so appreciate that. Okay, so everybody listening when you see this episode come up, go to the facebook page of The Inspire Cafe Podcast. It’ll be pinned to the top. Post your questions. At least they’ll get back to you and we’re thinking that will be up for a week once the episode is released, so, so get your questions up there for Lisa to get back to you. Okay, great. Thanks Lisa.

Lisa:                                     45:08                    Oh, you’re welcome. Thank you. Yeah, and I want to thank you, Kathy, because we need more people like you bringing those stories and inspiration. There’s so much good in this world and those that tap into it like yourself and spread it to others. You can see this shift in humanity happening and how we want more of that and I just really want to acknowledge you and thank you from my heart for what you’re doing. Really appreciate being a part of your podcasts.

Kathy:                                  45:37                    Thank you, Lisa. I just wanted to say I really appreciate you coming on the show and sharing your story and all the things that you’re doing to help others. So just thank you so much and I really appreciate it. We’re going to put all your links on our website as well on the inspire cafe.com and just want to say thank you. It was a pleasure talking with you.

Lisa:                                     46:01                    Yes, you too. And um, I hope to hear from some of your listeners will be fun to just tap into their heart, soul purpose, soul purpose. All right.

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